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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:41 AM
thoughts are much more changeable
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I suppose. but the NPC taking her exact same name can not be a coincidence
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Maybe you influenced that somehow?
1:42 AM
By thinking too much about it
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/28/2023 1:42 AM
^
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:43 AM
it probably happened because it's been on your mind. It makes sense it could just pop into your head as an idea (edited)
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/28/2023 1:43 AM
Thoughts have a hell of a sway in influencing actions, conscious or unconscious.
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:44 AM
it's very natural to notice all sorts of coincidences and links when doing tulpamancy, especially when you're trying your best to be aware for signs of the 'realness' of a tulpa
1:45 AM
what you do with those ideas is up to you, tho! They are sort of like the raw inspiration for considering more details about a tulpa
1:46 AM
you don't need to use all of them, tho, if they don't fit with your overall goals
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Thats good to hear.
1:47 AM
1 more thing tho. The fingers moving thing
1:48 AM
I haven;t been practicing any form of switching
1:48 AM
now for some reason my thoughtforms develop fast
1:48 AM
but not like that
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:48 AM
how do you mean, "not like that?"
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I didn't tell her to move my body or try switching or anything like that. We haven't been practicing. UNLESS this is some form of tulpish I don't know about
1:49 AM
or something natural to the process
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/28/2023 1:50 AM
It could just be a random muscle spasm.
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Do they feel normal or do they feel different?
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:50 AM
did it feel like it could have been a muscle spasm, Zee?
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whats the difference
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I personally feel the movement is a bit rougher when I tell Mallory to move a finger than when I have one of my usual unconscious fidgets
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:51 AM
sometimes, muscles can just move on their own, and it be nothing to do with tulpamancy
1:51 AM
some people get it more often than others
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I get it really often ^^
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:52 AM
it pretty much never happens to us, but when it does it just happens and there was no sense of agency behind the movement
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maybe. For perspective I was laying on my back for about 5 minutes,eyes closed, and visualizing
1:52 AM
My fingers curled up a bit
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Agh my head hurts a lot, I'm going to sleep, good night 💖
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good night. sorry if I contributed to that
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No, I stuck my head out of a bus' window for two hours on a trip
1:53 AM
And my neck pain makes my head hurt
1:53 AM
The wind was worth it tgo
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thats good lol
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:54 AM
there's many different possible reasons for why someone's fingers might curl up a bit, the body does all sorts of movements on it's own (you might have noticed it more since I presume you were lying quite still)
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you are probably right.
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:55 AM
if it was your tulpa, you'd know ^w^
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I think there's even a street trick that abuses it to scam people. Whenever you're at rest your hand will slowly curl into a mostly closed position thanks to your muscles. http://m.goodtricks.net/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.goodtricks.net%2Fmagnetic-fingers-trick.html&utm_referrer=#2573 (edited)
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1:57 AM
I am calmed down abit now. If you can't tell we are new to this and still trying to figure it out. This fast development feels like a curse
1:57 AM
not that I am not thankful for it because my gen z brain doesn't have patience lol
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 1:58 AM
I'm glad you're calmer about it now ^w^
1:59 AM
maybe the thing with fast development is to deliberately take a break from it if you notice yourself getting worried... you might even progress faster that way, since it could keep things less complicated
2:00 AM
my host went straight to being plural seemingly instantly, but we didn't read any guides or anything. Have you been checking out guides?
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While you might be right. It is fun to visualise and train my miond. It is a special interest of mine now.
2:00 AM
I have been looking at guides
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 2:01 AM
if you're already very fast at this, and already have a strong interest, best use of the guides is just as inspiration, rather than instructions
2:02 AM
if you're developing fast already, you can probably focus more on your own ideas for it, and just pick and mix anything you find interesting from the guides
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Funnily enough thats what I have been doing lmao
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 2:02 AM
not everything in every guide is true for every person
2:02 AM
nice nice nice ^w^
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Thanks for the help. I appreciate communities like this
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 2:03 AM
my system's philosophy with tulpamancy is: it's your brain, your rules, you are in charge
2:03 AM
keep it agile, keep it adaptive, keep it healthy, keep it however makes you happy ^w^
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Zee
Thanks for the help. I appreciate communities like this
Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 2:04 AM
you're welcome ^w^
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I think I might hit the hay as well. I am tired
2:04 AM
have a good night
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Ale𝕏andra 🍄🐈 4/28/2023 2:04 AM
me too, night!
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 4/28/2023 4:37 AM
Im really happy to see you back alex. I hope you are doing fine ❤️
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Who used to be able to switch with the tulpa, but because of circumstances or events you lost the ability to switch? Who dealt with it how? We used to be able to switch with out-of-body switching and disconnecting me as a Host. But now we can't get into that deep form of switching. It's been about a few years now. Using the translator.
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1. Intrusive thoughts led me to believe my Tulpa was failed (I can recognize these thoughts slightly better now) and led me to treat said 2 day old tulpa more like a servitor. After this she said she wanted to be dissipated and I obliged. However later that next morning, a NPC became a bit more sentient. I asked said npc her name and the name was the same name of the tulpa I hurt and therefore dissipated. I visualized her all day (As I usually do) fighting and destroying intrusive thoughts of the former tulpa coming back for revenge. I came back home and we had some fun and talked a bit. After a bit I was lying down doing some visualisation practice. At this point I felt my fingers move on their own while I felt vibrations around my body. I know tulpas can't switch without my consent but it only fed said intrusive thoughts more then I'd like to admit.
@Zee - jump how did you try to fight the intrusive thoughts? How was your breathing when you were doing it? Did you hyperventilate?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/28/2023 8:46 AM
Tulpas are sentient headmates, i'm pretty sure you can hurt them
@Kei Wendt - jump way to feed someone’s disturbing and potentially hurtful intrusive thoughts to validate yoursef… lol
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Leiko
1. Intrusive thoughts led me to believe my Tulpa was failed (I can recognize these thoughts slightly better now) and led me to treat said 2 day old tulpa more like a servitor. After this she said she wanted to be dissipated and I obliged. However later that next morning, a NPC became a bit more sentient. I asked said npc her name and the name was the same name of the tulpa I hurt and therefore dissipated. I visualized her all day (As I usually do) fighting and destroying intrusive thoughts of the former tulpa coming back for revenge. I came back home and we had some fun and talked a bit. After a bit I was lying down doing some visualisation practice. At this point I felt my fingers move on their own while I felt vibrations around my body. I know tulpas can't switch without my consent but it only fed said intrusive thoughts more then I'd like to admit.
@Zee - jump how did you try to fight the intrusive thoughts? How was your breathing when you were doing it? Did you hyperventilate?
I used an imaginary hammer to shatter them if they were small enough. My breathing was normal.
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Did you hate your tulpa?
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No I did not. I wish not to discuss my first Tulpa further (edited)
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Oh that's good, just was a bit confused
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
Tulpas are sentient headmates, i'm pretty sure you can hurt them
@Kei Wendt - jump way to feed someone’s disturbing and potentially hurtful intrusive thoughts to validate yoursef… lol
I'm sorry
4:16 PM
I was wrong
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Lucilyn: you can hurt them through meaning, that's it (edited)
4:17 PM
they don't have a physical form to hurt, but they can be hurt by your intention in that sense
4:18 PM
there are a surprising number of people who imagine combat in their wonderlands for fun
4:18 PM
that doesn't "hurt" their tulpas
4:18 PM
but imagining hurting your tulpa can be symbolic/have meaning that hurts them
4:18 PM
tulpamancy is all about intent, really
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Reisen
they don't have a physical form to hurt, but they can be hurt by your intention in that sense
Yeah that's what i thought?
4:20 PM
Which is why i said that
4:20 PM
Now i feel bad though
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just don't be hurt by it
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Kei Wendt
Yeah that's what i thought?
Lucilyn: you two were both just vague with what you meant by hurt (edited)
4:26 PM
if you intend to be hurting your tulpa, that intention can be hurtful to them (unless they don't care, lol)
4:26 PM
that's it
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if you're menhera enough to hurt your tulpa, you're probably hurting yourself too
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4:28 PM
get well, if so
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 4/28/2023 5:07 PM
I'm sorry
@Kei Wendt - jump it's fine
5:07 PM
dw
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How do you know it's the right time to start narration and talking to your Tulpa? I have seen people calling for it after forming the personality and form and saying it can be started as soon as creating one. I am new to this and I am not sure if this is asked.
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/29/2023 2:33 PM
i didnt have any detailed plans aside from some core personality stuff, and got an answer during the first evening
2:34 PM
for me, my brains somehow filled in the details and she kind of turned out exactly how i planned her to be, but in surprising ways that i liked
2:35 PM
i also felt like i had the ability to kind of steer her forming during the first couple of days, and those changes were there the next day
2:36 PM
or its just that she picked up on those and changed herself willingly, lol
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/29/2023 2:36 PM
there is no “right time” The best thing you can do is talk to them and try to interact with the@
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/29/2023 2:36 PM
so if you want to start talking now, its probably not a bad idea
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/29/2023 2:36 PM
them*
2:37 PM
or maybe I could also say that any time is the “right time”
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/29/2023 2:37 PM
remember that it wont be an "alien" feeling or thought, you probably will think its just you
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also,I i have the same problem many people have had. I couldn't tell the difference between me and my tulpa, it could be already there
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aapeli 🟣🥫🥔 ae 4/29/2023 2:38 PM
if its an answer that pops up from "you" and you didnt think of it yourself on purpose, its most likely the tulpa
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